I'm a new fan and have been obsessed with Rat Saw God. When you are writing/recording a song do you ever think "this song is too long, weird, whatever" to put on an album?

This question was inspired by "bull believer" . The second half is amazing, especially when you start yelling (goosebumps every time) but I can see how it might not appeal to casual listeners.

A: One of my biggest suggestions to songwriters is never ever ever think about reception or the audience when making your music. It will nevvvvvvver serve the music or your fulfillment with it. I know it’s easier said than done but it is soooo important.

“Bull Believer” is a song I HAD to write, cause it helped me confront a wall I needed to get over to keep writing. I had been trying to write it for years and once I got it right there was nothing in the world that would’ve kept me from releasing it so I could perform it live and have the release that screaming gives me.

If people don’t fuck w that song or think it’’s too long I couldn’t care less cause it’s giving me what I needed so badly.